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Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:31, 9 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Amitie 10g (talk) 18:54, 9 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! I've seen you've overwritten my file File:Münster, LVM -- 2017 -- 6359.jpg. I've reverted your changes. Please respect COM:OVERWRITE. Take care, the image has a special status (Quality image)! I only licensed the image as I uploaded it. And if there is any optimization, I'll will do with my RAW file. Just ask me instead of uploading and overwrite an image where you are not the author. Any other change: Please upload the image with a new name as derivated image. Thank you. --XRay ^talk 11:28, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@XRay: Hi. Lossless image optimization is often performed by bots and sometimes humans on MediaWiki to reduce load. Please understand that no information is lost, only quantization tables and Huffman trees are rearranged in a JPEG file to save space. Quality images are the ones which profit the most from these optimizations for they're usually popular and large image files. While the amount of devotion you put in your images is welcomed, this can not be done upstream as it is specific to compressed file formats, but keep in mind though no information is altered by reorganizing the JPEG data. I will not revert to version as of 02 April 2017 unless we reach consensus and I will happily work with you on reaching that goal.

Gamer-Actu (talk) 11:50, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'll check the optimization. But you should really don't overwrite images. We have the rules COM:OVERWRITE and I do not accept minor changes too. And: Your optimization adds a new file in the history. The file needs additional space. An optimization of only a few byte is not good enough. I am modifing only at the source, usually a RAW file. I think there is other work to so than overwriting files. --XRay ^talk 13:03, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@XRay: I did overlook that, indeed. When I said "reducing load" I didn't mean that files will take less space but that the network will be put under less stress.

If you really truly don't trust my words when I'm telling you that data hasn't been altered at all you could just download both versions and export them to any lossless compression image file format and note that they are identical; I actually just exported the two images to PNG using Paint and both their size and their checksums were identical. What more proof would one need.

Also if I'm being honest with you, I am not sure I understand the meaning of your two last sentences.

Gamer-Actu (talk) 13:28, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also small footprint, to make sure there is no misunderstanding; I've seen you added "Don't change the EXIF data." to your revert commits.

As I stated earlier the content of the file has been left completely untouched and this includes all the metadata. So, as a matter of fact, I did not change the EXIF data.

Gamer-Actu (talk) 13:38, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry, writing in english is not the best way for me. (BTW: You should create your user page with babel information.) I trust your words and I really know the difference of load and space. But I still don't accept overwriting. May be others see this and overwrite images too, it isn't exemplary. Next upload with my workflow will overwrite changes by third party. The optimum is not everything. And the creation of the thumbnails is not affected by your minor improvement of the file size. And the last two sentences. My workflow starts with a RAW file. All modifications should be done beginning with this RAW data. And overwriting with a modified JPG file is never a good way. If there is a better way to improve the file size, it should be a part of my workflow. If you think you need a smaller file, upload the file as derivate with a new name and add your name aus author. These is a part of the license condition. But IMO this makes no sense. --XRay ^talk 13:56, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@XRay: Yeah, I get all that. Not that I agree with all of it but I do see your point.

And overwriting with a modified JPG file is never a good way., I fear that you don't want to acknowledge that I am not reencoding the image again. I do well know that modifying a lossy source is a terrible idea but this is not what has been done here. Maybe you should check the description of some of the tools I've used to get a better sense of what is actually being done: JPEGOPTIM MAN, jpegtran.

Anyway, I'll let you decide if you want to revert back to my changes on your images. No matter what, I invite you to optimize all your pictures before uploading them as of now. While it may not seem like that big of a deal, a few megabytes saved here and there can make things quite faster to retrieve.

Gamer-Actu (talk) 14:27, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FYI: I've checked the modified file. The segments were reordered and the format switched from baseline to progressive. You should not progressive JPEG's (seen at segment SOF2): Help:JPEG#Progressive_JPEGs --XRay ^talk 09:36, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's exactly what I told you I did…

Lol, you should have read that link you gave me about progressive JPEGs with more caution, I've already stumbled upon it long ago: Phabricator. It's just one single programmer that didn't want to fix a bug in MediaWiki's handling of progressive JPEGs (that has been fixed since then), everyone else has been taken aback seing how ridicule of an idea this was.

Anyway, really sad to see how you react seeing people improving on your work, that's at the heart of Wikimedia. I'm surprised it didn't happen to you before. You're missing out on so much.

Also, now that you know it exists, you should really do that kind of optimization beforehand.

Gamer-Actu (talk) 10:49, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry for my misunderstanding of parts of your explanation. --XRay ^talk 12:34, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For the record, Tim Starling is not "just one single programmer". He has been working in MediaWiki for the last 15 years, contributed thousands of changes to MediaWiki, both fixing bugs and developing big, complex features. It's not "that [he] didn't want to fix a bug in MediaWiki's". Thumbnailing progressive JPEGs need more memory, as the full image needs to be loaded in memory. That's an issue intrinsic to the format and the way ImageMagick works, not a MediaWiki bug. As Tim clearly stated. At most, you could consider it a task for the wikimedia administrators that they should be dedicating X more GB of server RAM to thumbnailing (no, infinite is not an option). The bug was "closed" indicating that it won't be done, not "fixed". Later changes may mean that it is now possible to thumbnail such files, but that doesn't change the underlying problem of progressive thumbnails (unless you have evidence that the current thumbnailer in use is now capable of not loading the full image…). Platonides (talk) 14:53, 4 February 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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StSl (talk) 12:45, 18 April 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FYI, policy is in the making to ban image optimizer overwrites. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 01:58, 29 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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